Ha, I totally read that as Title (letter)V, not number 5, and thought, Oh my god, did they really just name it Title Virgin?
And then I realized I needed some coffee.
And that I want a Tshirt that says "My future husband loves his bare stem."

Facts taught in schools? How... radical. I think I'll send Rep. Mascher a thank-you note.

Is that a real ad? It's hilarious.

What does it even mean? I don't even understand what it's a metaphor for. Maybe it's that body part that I lose every time I have sex (unless I'm married)... you know the one.

It's great that it says "future husband" and not future spouse or future husband or wife. Because abstinence-only only applies to females.

It's great that it says "future husband" and not future spouse or future husband or wife. Because abstinence-only only applies to females.

I-O-W-A, ladies in the back say hey hey hey!

Proud of my home state today.

quick question re the ad, is it "everytime" one has sex, or "everytime one has sex with a different person".....
Because in the first case the future husband would be holding a bare stem even if he were the pre-marital sex partner....why don't they clarify.. this is sooo ambiguous

Ok I get that this bare stem/virgin nonsense means that the most important quality you have as a woman *to give your husband* is your virginity. So then, what I always wonder is what is your worth supposed to be then after the wedding night?

There are so many things wrong with this metaphor. But it's important to note that the wedding ring contains superglue which will prevent you from losing any petals from the violent shaking that comes with sex.

When I was younger, I used to arrange flowers (not competitively, and I stopped when we moved somewhere with fewer flowers.) Many times, if a rose had a damaged petal or petals (exterior petals often are) I would remove the petal and others to "balance it out."

So, if we're really roses, what are the damaged petals? Even if you don't pluck the petals, the rose gradually opens. If we have some sex, i.e., pluck some exterior petals, does that increase the amount of time we appear to be virginal, aka, a bud?

Clearly, the metaphor maker is not a rose fan.

Ohh, wait, should we leave the petals intact, but pick the rose and dry it? Maybe we should have it professionaly dried, they are usually prettier that way.

Sorry for the babbling, but I love roses and didn't engage in the abstinence except to the extent I wanted to.

This made me really happy. Does anyone know where I can find a list of the other 16 states that have refused?

What, like your future husband holding a bare stem, i.e. his own penis, when he discovers you've figured out how to make yourself feel good without him? OH my goodness! SEX: it takes TWO to tango - as in TWO people to know what they're doing (safely and also armed with the knowledge on how to get off)! I can't take this crap anymore!

It makes me increasingly happy to see state after state refuse the funding. Hopefully enough states will reject abstinence only as the fucked up fraud that it is and we'll finally have comprehensive sex education nationwide.

Go, Iowa! Also, the picture makes me laugh. Isn't my future husband supposed to buy me roses and not the other way around? So shouldn't I be able to have all the sex I want but my husband-to-be should save it for marriage? ;)

Imagine if that rose crap were real. A couple on their wedding night:

"OMG...you, you...you're a bare stem!"

"I'm sorry, darling, I was a slut when I was a teen. I didn't dare tell that I'm only a reclaimed virgin, not a real one. I just couldn't figure out how to make my petals grow back..."

That ad actually makes me want to cry. I guess just cuz I know there are people who really believe this...

Heck, /my mom/ who grew up in IL was surprised when I told her that lack of sexual experience wasn't really a characteristic young men seem to particularly value in young women in my experiences this decade.

The ad is sad. Imagine what that does to a person's self esteem. Even if they haven't had sex and don't have to worry about being a bare stem, this ad is telling you you're worthless to men except for your virginity. This is why I'm still so bitter with the church. If they'd keep their beliefs to themselves I'd just quietly disagree, but they advertise and hurt people with this stuff.

I agree abstinence only education is a travesty but I have to admit this ad makes me laugh. I think because of the surely unintended implication you can have quite a lot of sex before you have to worry about a "bare stem"! I mean there are a lot of petals in that picture...

BWAHAHAHAHAH! Who are these losers? I wonder what the male version of that ad would be?

"You are like a stiff, crisp pretzel. Every time you have premarital sex, you get a little soggier. Don't leave your future wife holding a handful of damp, limp dough."

Anyone know where I can see a list of the 17 other states who have refused funding?

It would be much appreciated!

I actually had a teacher in middle school use the rose metaphor on me and a couple of my classmates.

I wish I could say I laughed, but being 12 years old, I just felt dirty, and I wasn't even having sex. Stupid abstinence crowd.

It must hurt when you get down to the thorns. Ouchie.

haha

Commodore, New York is one of them. I can't help you any further than that (but Google probably can!).

I"m very very proud of my Iowanness right now. Well, most of the time, but mostly right now.

I"m very very proud of my Iowanness right now. Well, most of the time, but mostly right now.

Word. Now the 2nd reason I (heart) my home state. (The first being the State Fair of course...)

Oh my God. I had to laugh when I saw that picture of the rose. We got those cards in catholic all-girls high school sex ed. in addition to breath mints that were printed with the words "Sex is mint for marriage." Ridiculous.