Bleh... another female celebrity trying to jump-start her career by appearing nude. Sigh. What a shame.

I absolutely hate PETA, and this is yet another example of their complete lack of propriety when it comes to human life. Save the chickens, but women are STILL A PEICE OF MEAT. Oh, don't even get me started.

I'm going to an OXfam meeting tonight, which I love, but a great deal of the people involved are your typical vegan/PETA folks who are all about human rights, but treat me like shit because I'm overweight. They probably imagine me sitting on my couch, completely naked, eating raw cows and looking nothing like Alicia Silverstone.

I....don't...get..it...?

This surprises me a lot, actually. You would think much more "women-friendly" people would be working for PETA. Do they think this gets a lot of people on their side? If so, I wonder if those are the types of people you WANT in your organization.

I was particularly annoyed when I saw on the Milk Gone Wild site that they were saying that Milk is so bad for you that beer is better. Now, I've been drinking milk my whole life (which my Dad absolutely hates, btw - I can't go to the fridge and pull out the jug without hearing "WHY do you drink that stuff?"). I might consider switching to Soy Milk, but I'm not quite there yet.
But about the beer is better for you than milk thing - in all the years that I have been drinking milk, I have never once blacked out, or not remembered what I have done the night before, or become inebriated to the point that I was a good target for a sexual assault. (I'm not trying to criticize people who drink, but there is such a thing as drinking responsibly, although that's not an excuse for a guy to take advantage, etc etc) And look at the photos all around this statement! It's a take-off on the Girls Gone Wild franchise, in which girls who have had too much BEER (or other alcohol, you get my drift here) are exploited, and some have even been raped. (Did anyone else read that article? If anyone's interested I'll try to find it and send a link.)
I think I'm a little overly sensitive with alcohol because my grandfather is an alcoholic, and I've seen the total ugliness that surrounds it. So to me, hearing that Beer is better than cow's milk? Fking bite me, PETA.

oh, and there is absolutely no reason Alicia Silverstone had to be naked for that ad. gratuitous!

Nathan, sadly, PETA has a long and storied history of hating on women, African-American and Jewish people. It really shocked me when I found out, too -- I've been a vegetarian for 13 years, and I refuse to have anything to do with them. It's my opinion that they've done more harm than good for animal rights, or at least not nearly as much good as they could be doing. Argh. Why can't everybody just support everybody's rights, without sacrificing one to accomplish another? Even a child can see that won't work.

(I hope that made sense...I'd look up references for PETA's Holocaust on Your Plate and Slavery campaigns, but I got two hours of sleep last night and am off for a nap!)

Apparently it's only important to get men (and women ashamed of not being famous with personal trainers) to go vegetarian.

ikkin, I'm sad that you get that kind of treatment from vegans. It seems logical that those who respect animal life would carry that over to human life, but unfortunately the part of people that is passionate about animal rights often supersedes the part of them that governs human decency. I think a big part of that is disillusionment, because it is a tough battle for animal rights advocates/activists. A large majority of people, even some of the most open-minded, laugh at what we're trying to do and the defenses come up a lot earlier than they should sometimes--thus the militant vegan stereotype.

I think PETA plays no small role in that stereotype because they continually make vegetarianism distasteful and ridiculous.

Trust me, vegans and PETA are not synonymous; in fact, many of us wholeheartedly agree that PETA's ad campaigns are f'ed up for many reasons. Asking one to respect chickens but not women is awful. Please don't think that all vegetarians/vegans are behind PETA, because in fact I'd say more are opposed to their ad campaigns than in agreement with them.

Wow, when there are people out there who care more about respecting animals than respecting people, there's something wrong.

I was veggie for three years but somehow I missed all this nonsense.

Lets hope that PETA at least paid Silverstone good money for her image and that she didn't do it for free. It is depressing to see so much goodwill donated to an organization whose moral core is as rotten as PETA's. As for the ad in question, it is completely unsurprising, which is is sad in and of itself.

On the milk vs beer thing, if you drink 72 ounces of milk (same amount as a six pack), you are probably equally likely to wind up vomiting over a toilet as if your were drinking equivalent portions of Natty Ice. I doubt drinking one or two glasses of beer is worse for you, or leads to worse health or situational outcomes, than drinking one or two glasses of milk.

Yeah, ponies and rainbows, I hated that holocaust on your plate ad. I went to a summer philosophy program at Stanford the summer after I was in tenth grade, and somehow that ad came up in one of my classes. Everyone agreed that it was horrible, and then the professor asked if there were any vegetarians in the room. I've been vegetarian since I was born, so I raised my hand, and then the professor asked me to defend the ad. Sorry, but just because I think animals that are raised for meat are treated horribly doesn't mean I think it's the same thing as genocide.

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I agree, but milk doesn't have the potential for abuse that beer does. Like, I know people who have consumed an entire 6 pack - or two - in one night. I've never known that to happen with milk. And I'm sure they mean it the way that you do, but it's just a really poor choice of a comparison.

"Where is the kid who's a Milk-fk-Junkie?"
-Lewis Black

Well, they got you to talk about it. Which is why they use nude women in their stunts. I have no idea if it results in people going vegetarian, but I am sure the attention is seen as "effective" and draws donations from people who already support this gimmicky approach.

Sadly, there's a lot of misanthropes involved in animal rights (note: I support limited animal rights in general with very strong animal rights for the hominids) so it's not really a surprise that the most strident among them (and I include PETA in that category) would have limited motivation to support human rights.

They are almost always leftists, though, so I think it's not the case that they don't care about women's rights, or minority rights, but that animal rights so much greatly overwhelms those concerns that they end up with a big moral blind spot as a result.

I am a vegetarian and that is why I am parading around naked?

Become a vegetarian and you too can become anemic and so malnourished you don't have the energy to dress yourself!

...At least that's what I'M getting from this ad.

I'd seen the print ads for this earlier and my thinking was; seriously WTF? It's totally using women's bodies to sell something, as if blue collar men are going to see Alicia Silverstone naked and drop their hot wings and ribs right then and there.

Perhaps the message is that being vegeratian is "sexy" but that won't work, what they need to do is come up with an ad campaign that says unless you're vegetarian then you're not "truly" American and the terrorists win. Hey, it works for everything else;) [/sarcasm]

If one were conspiracy theory-minded, one might suppose that PETA is funded by the meat industry to make the animal rights movement look like wackos.

If were on the fence about becoming vegan, this campaign would send me straight back to a yummy, organically-raised bison burger.

I'm vegan and I'm waaaay beyond the point of being disgusted with the name PETA is giving to the vegan community. Most vegans I know don't support PETA... In fact, of all the vegan groups I've been in and all the hundreds of vegans I've met, I don't think I've met anyone who supports them. And yet, they're who most people think of when they hear "vegan".

I can't count the number of times that people have reacted aggressively when I've told them I was vegan, by saying things like, "Oh my God, you people are fucking nuts!" or "Why the Hell do you think you have the right to tell me what to eat?" or "Don't you know that PETA did (fill in the blank)???". I didn't say I'm a maniac who forces veganism on everyone, or that I support organizations like PETA, but sadly, they're the most vocal group out there. It's shit like this that makes me too embarrassed to admit my beliefs to people... I'm fucking sick of it.

Venting... Sorry.

When I first heard about this ad, I just assumed it would be an "I'd rather go naked than wear fur" thing. When I actually saw it, I was pretty horrified. It's so hard to believe (or, rather, I wish it was hard to believe) that women would allow themselves to be exploited that way. It's very sad that it's so ingrained in our culture that people don't even realize it's going on.

When I first heard about this ad, I just assumed it would be an "I'd rather go naked than wear fur" thing. When I actually saw it, I was pretty horrified. It's so hard to believe (or, rather, I wish it was hard to believe) that women would allow themselves to be exploited that way. It's very sad that it's so ingrained in our culture that people don't even realize it's going on.

On the other hand, isn't it kind of awesome that they are hiring a woman whose career tanked in part because she was deemed "fat" by all the gossip rags? She is still the same size, it seems, and just as healthy and beautiful as when she stared in "Clueless".

Okay, I am again very confused. Why can't Alicia Silverstone be naked in an ad but Jessica can use a naked section of a woman's headless body to sell her book? I can't stand reading all these comments while at the same time seeing an ad for Jessica's book on the right. I don't get it.

God that ad was ridiculous! PETA sucks arse, and undermines what they're supposedly fighting for

What I love is all the animal lovers donating money for an organisation that wants to end pet ownership (I can understand WHY, but ultimately it's unrealistic and stupid)

Because swimming naked has anything to do with not eating meat? Anyone with an ounce of sense can see that its nothing more than a demeaning sell tactic and it lessens the quality of whatever message is being conveyed.

Okay, I am again very confused. Why can't Alicia Silverstone be naked in an ad but Jessica can use a naked section of a woman's headless body to sell her book? I can't stand reading all these comments while at the same time seeing an ad for Jessica's book on the right. I don't get it.

Personally, I'm not always that offended by gratuitous use of boobies - I just thought this ad was unbelievably stupid.

The main difference I see between this ad and Jessica's book is that naked ladies are actually relevant to feminism - how are naked ladies relevant to vegetarianism?

Ok, do you think we could not beat the dead, boney, dusty horse of Jessica's book cover? She has a NEW book coming out. Maybe you can complain about them using stripes. I mean, why not dots? How do you think the dots feel? And there's a sillhoute of a shapely woman on the cover. Why not an overweight woman? Or a man? Or a martian?

I have been a vegetarian for 13 years now and am not a supporter of PETA. I used to be, when I was idealistic and fully of angst. I was in a PETA sponsored protest and found them to be too militant for my taste. They seemed to be more into the shock value than really helping animals. I stopped supporting them and started to be an animal foster parent, that way, I felt that I was really making a difference.

I'm a vegan, but this ad just tries too hard to sell sex for their cause. Swimming naked has nothing to do with animal rights. Why can't they show something relevant to the message?

So... is going veg supposed to make people look like Alicia Silverstone? Or just be able to climb out of a swimming pool with dry hair (did anyone else notice that)? 'Cuz I went veg a while ago and that didn't happen.

"Become a vegetarian and you too can become anemic and so malnourished you don't have the energy to dress yourself!"

I resent that. I've been a vegetarian for 12 years (that's more than half my life) and a vegan for 3, and I have never been anemic and malnourished. You sound like my grandparents.

Anyway, that ad is ridiculous. It's like softcore porn. They could have shown her giving the same speech, but with clothes on, and the sexiness could have been subtly implied and I wouldn't have been offended.

"What I love is all the animal lovers donating money for an organization that wants to end pet ownership (I can understand WHY, but ultimately it's unrealistic and stupid)"

Okay, like I said, I despise PETA, but I'll defend them on this. PETA is not against pets, but they ARE against breeding of domesticated animals. That's not something I fully agree with them on, but I can understand why some people are opposed to breeding cats and dogs when there are so many millions who are unwanted.

What you've probably gotten confused about is that PETA states that in an ideal world, pets simply wouldn't exist... I can see the point there--it was a pretty big fuck-up on our part as a species to breed millions of creatures to be dependent on us even though we can't care for even the majority of them.

I am opposed to PETA because of their advertising tactics, their condescending attitude toward the public, and the radicalized image they present, but PETA doesn't want everyone to surrender their pets to the wild or anything like that. They just (understandably) don't like that we've bred so many dependent animals without having the capacity to care for them.

They want all pets to be desexed... This will kill off pets. While if I were a less selfish creature I would agree with this, I wouldn't want to be alive without pets - I mean that entirely literally.

They also support breed specific legislation, which is enough in and of itself for me to write them off

(There's more but I'll leave it at that :))

She says, "I have so much more energy"... why the hell is she moving so slowly then?

"I doubt drinking one or two glasses of beer is worse for you, or leads to worse health or situational outcomes, than drinking one or two glasses of milk."

Beer may not be awful for you, but it's certainly not GOOD for you in the way milk is. Milk has calcium, protein, vitamin A, vitamin B-12, vitamin D, potassium, phosphorus, niacin, and riboflavin. Beer has...carbs and alcohol. You do the math.

"'Become a vegetarian and you too can become anemic and so malnourished you don't have the energy to dress yourself!'

I resent that. I've been a vegetarian for 12 years (that's more than half my life) and a vegan for 3, and I have never been anemic and malnourished. You sound like my grandparents."

I got the impression the statement was implying that Alicia Silverstone looks anemic and malnourished, not implying that you do...

But does she look anemic or malnourished? Again, she's downright large for Hollywood (which probably makes her a size 6) and I am not really seeing anemic, other than that she is being shot moving slowly and wearing too much eye liner. And vegetarians, as a general rule, tend towards healthier diets (though blah blah blah some vegs eat unhealthy etc) and in fact, most Americans eat too much protein.

Did anyone click on the link to "Milk gone wild" and watch the video? Not the actual milk gone wild video (which is very ridiculous, by the way) but the video that immediately follows it that addresses the treatment of cows in the dairy industry. If you weren't vegan before watching that video, you will certainly become one after!

I drink about a half gallon of milk a day. I've done that since I was little and like to give that as a reason for my being 5'11". I buy Organic milk. It is much more expensive, but my moral compass would have me go vegan otherwise. If I stop drinking so much milk for a while, such as when I'm on vacation, etc, I do tend to lose a little weight. But I really don't think that replacing milk with beer in my daily diet would improve my health. I'd be drinking more than a six pack in volume daily. Yech........budweiser breath.

I drink about a half gallon of milk a day. I've done that since I was little and like to give that as a reason for my being 5'11". I buy Organic milk. It is much more expensive, but my moral compass would have me go vegan otherwise. If I stop drinking so much milk for a while, such as when I'm on vacation, etc, I do tend to lose a little weight. But I really don't think that replacing milk with beer in my daily diet would improve my health. I'd be drinking more than a six pack in volume daily. Yech........budweiser breath.

Beer's actually a good source of Vitamin C. Of course, it's just like the red wine & heart disease connection - no binge drinking of the stuff. 1-2 glasses a day, regularly. That means no more than 24oz of beer per day. Captain Cook used it to prevent scurvy amongst his crew on his voyages to the South Pacific. Mmm beer. Sorry, it's Friday afternoon, I've just been to the university pub before my shift at work. Monteiths Radler is a wonderful brew.

Word, Fenriswolf. To all your comments on this thread.

I'm surprised no one on this thread has mentioned Carol J. Adams. Like Adams, I personally feel that vegetarian/vegan and feminist causes are fundamentally related. Both are trying to end oppression and exploitation, but I think oftentimes it's easy to get caught up with one battle (like PETA with this ad) and lose sight of the idea that to end one oppression, we should strive to end all oppressions. Take note, I'm not comparing women with animals (as anti-feminists do.. Google Adams and check out her slide show pictures, they're terribly derogatory), but I do see a correlation between the two causes.

That said, this ad is repulsive.

This is my take on PETA: If you're a vegetarian or a vegan, PETA's website and information can make it a lot easier for you to reach your dietary goals. And that's about it. If you're not veg, all they're going to do is insult you, which, needless to say, is NOT the way to bring people to any cause. A much better way is to respect people's choices and answer their questions without pointing a finger. Just saying.

Oh yeah, URL:

http://www.triroc.com/caroladams/slideshow.html

I know the point is to get people to talk about the ad--but then all I am doing is talking about my disgust of PETA--not about how animal cruelty is a prevailing and persistent problem in the world. Controversy works for tv shows and celebrities, not in the promotion of rights' groups (unless that controversy is to highlight the practices the group is against. It's stupid marketing. They shouldve taken that money they used to make the ad and done something constructive with it, something that actually helps animals.

Maybe it's been blogged already, but I'm still not over this stupid PETA ad:

http://www.adrants.com/images/petapig.jpg

Which was designed to liken meat-eaters to a British Columbia serial killer who hacked up poor women from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside and mixed the remains in with pig meat raised on his farm. I mean, this ad ran in the same communities where these women went missing. How lovely for their families.

PETA makes me want to eat steak every night, just out of spite. Honestly.

Dorianne – that is appalling!

PETA is a disgusting group. They claim to be pro-animal rights, but they would rather see dogs euthanized than domesticated and they want to see all pit bulls killed. They also vandalized the home of a person who rehabilitates dogs and has them work. They are sick, twisted extremists and I am ashamed that the public view of animal rights is PETA.

There are a few things I hate about PETA - and I attend Old Dominion University, almost right next to PETA headquarters, so I see this a lot ...

My problem with them is that often times, they'd go beyond what is appropriate to promote their cause, often times not caring about the human impact of it all.

I am sure you've all heard about PETA members making out on street corners to demonstrate that vegetarians and vegans "make better lovers."

With the Mike Vick situation, they've also taken advantage of the publicity, rather doing anything worthy in terms of animal rights.

They have a peta2.com program now, which aims at high school and college students. It works, too.

And one last thing - PETA likes to use the woman body to sell their crap, but they need to rethink it. Their whole "vegetarians and vegans" make better lovers slogan isn't true! I've been with both vegetarians and non-vegetarians, and I can't tell the difference.

As for gratuitous use of boobies to sell a product - I don't know, it depends on what the intention is in it all. I know this much: I won't buy a product just because it uses boobies to advertise. I am not 16-and-horny-all-the-time anymore.

I need to go to go back to bed.

My opinion about objectification remains the same: I'd rather see equality brought around by having an equivalent ad with a male than no ad at all. The world needs more naked people, not less.

hmn, guess I'm the only one here who actually likes PETA, and I'm not even vegan. I think that shock tactics hold a valuable place within any movement.

In regards to using women, why are we holding them to a higher standard than other groups that advertise? Sex sells, and I'd rather see if be used for a good cause than for seeling soap.

This is one of the many reasons I hate PETA, they trade one piece of meat for another. They're against the exploitation of animals, but it's alright to exploit women?

here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rhZQQWAjtc

Ingrid NewKirk explains
"people who will not look at the gore, cannot help but like at the gorgeous"
They know what they are doing. Can anyone deny that the media eats that stuff up?

Lucretia, that video would be ridiculous even if they were selling beer or cars. What does a woman's body have to do with any of it? However, yeah, I hold my advocacy groups to a higher standard than the people trying to sell me crap. The advocacy groups are trying to demonstrate that they have a conscience, while the people selling me crap are pretty clearly only after my money. Part of having a conscious is knowing beforehand how your actions could make people feel.

With the number of feminists who consider animal rights an integral part of their feminism, PETA is being mindnumbingly, infuriatingly stupid. They're selling out their female natural allies to what? Attract some drooling 16 year olds who probably aren't going to give up burgers anyway? It's so boneheaded and idiotic and, yes, sexist, it makes me want to scream.

Lucretia, that video would be ridiculous even if they were selling beer or cars. What does a woman's body have to do with any of it? However, yeah, I hold my advocacy groups to a higher standard than the people trying to sell me crap. The advocacy groups are trying to demonstrate that they have a conscience, while the people selling me crap are pretty clearly only after my money. Part of having a conscious is knowing beforehand how your actions could make people feel.

With the number of feminists who consider animal rights an integral part of their feminism, PETA is being mindnumbingly, infuriatingly stupid. They're selling out their female natural allies to what? Attract some drooling 16 year olds who probably aren't going to give up burgers anyway? It's so boneheaded and idiotic and, yes, sexist, it makes me want to scream.

"Apparently it's only important to get men (and women ashamed of not being famous with personal trainers) to go vegetarian." - Cola

I don't think this ad targets men.

I've never been a big fan of using feminism as a segway into animal rights. To be completely honest, I've never seen the connection between the two (as I fail to see ecofeminism having anything to do with women's rights, either). Could someone kindly explain their position?

At the NOW conference a few months ago, there was an old woman who walked around meowing like a cat ...to promote women's rights and feminism. Didn't go over too well.

I'm not too clear on it, myself, but I think it's because, by using animal products, you're using another's body for your own gain. They see a connection between that and the way women's bodies are used by men and by the mass media. Personally, I like meat and don't see a problem with that, but the corporate animal industries and cosmetic animal testing sicken me and I do my best not to buy that stuff.

By the way, sorry for the double post. I think that was my first post here, and I was confused.

I wonder how many animal byproducts are in that makeup slathered all over her face?

None, actually. I hate PETA, and I wish Silverstone didn't associate with them, b/c I really like her. She is completely vigilant about animal rights. She wears only vegan clothing, and makeup. Her wedding invitations were made on recycled paper and printed with vegetable ink. Every inch of her wedding was environmentally responsible.

The best part about Silverstone is that she doesn't condemn people for not going to the lengths that she does. She commends anyone who tries to do anything good for animals or the environment, and I think she's pretty awesome.

I just really wish she hadn't made that commercial.

"This is one of the many reasons I hate PETA, they trade one piece of meat for another. They're against the exploitation of animals, but it's alright to exploit women?"

Beth, you used the phrase "piece of meat" to refer to women. This ad did not. I fail to see any exploitation of women in this ad: a healthy, confidant woman lounges around while we hear her talk about her veganism. I'm not sure how effective it is, but I don't see how it portrays her as a piece of meat. It's not like the voiceover is a man saying "My girlfriend is a BABE now that she's vegan." Besides, in response to the comments that animal rights have nothing to do with the naked female body: animal rights are not the only reason to go vegan or vegetarian. Health reasons play a big part too, and since not once in this ad does Silverstone mention animal rights, I think we can assume that they're playing up the angle of "go veg, be healthier and feel better." What's wrong with that?

for those of you who don't see the link between women's rights and animal rights:

ANIMAL ADVOCACY IS A FEMINIST ISSUE
In patriarchal society women and animals are….
raped, beaten, hated, enslaved as pets
exploited as wives, sold for money, used
for entertainment, cheap labor, sex experiments...

In patriarchal society women and animals are
considered…
inferior, "cute," childish, uncontrollable,
emotional, impulsive, instinctive, irrational,
evil, property, objects...

In patriarchal society women and animals are
referred to as…
chicks, bitches, pussies, foxes, dogs,
cows, beavers, birds, bunnies, kittens
sows, lambs, shrews, geese, fillies,
bats, crows, heifers, vixens...

Every year in the United States alone…
Billions of animals are enslaved, tortured and murdered in
"animal agriculture," vivisection laboratories, the
entertainment industry, by hunters and fishers,
in traps and on fur farms, and by other modes of
human exploitation

*Our use of the term "animals" is a concession to common usage and is not intended to suggest the idea that humans are not also animals.

Feminists for Animal Rights is an ecofeminst organization that is dedicated to ending all forms of abuse against women and nonhuman animals. As ecofeminists we recognize that the abuse of women and nature is intimately connected in patriarchal society. As ecofeminist animal advocates we view the exploitation of women and animals* as an expression of a common patriarchal worldview, which manifests itself in both sexism and speciesism. We recognize that violence against women and animals, whether actual or threatened, is a product of this worldview and we work in nonviolent ways to eliminate that reality.

http://www.farinc.org/about.html

Lucretia, I see all of that - and of course, have read all of that in feminist theory classes, but I still don't see a concrete connection between the two - simply because I see them as a stretch of intellectual bridges.

I guess the problem I have with it is that we feminists are often lost in our own language and semantics, and it's hard to reach people that way.

For promoting feminism, I think it'd be hard to sit down with Farmer John from Tuscaloosa, Alamaba and talk about the connections between animal rights and eco-feminism and women's rights. Somehow, I have a hard time believing that we'll make the issue relevant enough for him to care.

Maybe it's just my male-privilege coming through and clouding my judgement. I don't know.

Want a "concrete connection" between the abuse of women and animals, ProFeministMale?

How about when my best friend's father, who beat her, her siblings and their mother killed all their cats? Do you see the connection in that case? Sheesh.

There's a concrete connection between the abuse of animals and the abuse of _anyone_, definitely. Psychopaths often engage in animal torture. I personally think, though, that it's a bit more tenuous to make a connection between using animals for food and companionship (the pet kind, not the bestiality kind) and the subjugation of women. Plenty of egalitarian societies also eat meat and have pets.

I think, though, that this ad is really sexual, not really hanging out in my healthy vegan body, particularly with the music in the background. Not that I'm against sex or naked bodies, but wouldn't her riding a bike or something show her healthiness more clearly than splashing around a pool naked?

I'm really disappointed to see all the assumptions being made here about what vegans are/think. As outspoken feminists, I know we're all tired of the stereotypes that get thrown around about us. I'm not a man hater and I'm not a pushy dietary nazi either. I've been a vegetarian for 2 years and a vegan for 9 months. It's one of the best decisions I've ever made. And much like every other vegan that's responded to this, I'm really bothered by a lot of PETA's tactics. PETA does not speak for me, and I think most vegs feel the same way. A lot of my friends are veg and none of them are PETA supporters.
I do believe that the oppression of animals and the oppression of women are connected in that the acceptance of using one living creature for our benefit leads to thinking that other living creatures are expendable as well.
The meat and dairy industry is fucked up. Way fucked up. I was starting to write a rant on this topic, but my favorite band, Propagandhi, says it better:
Some of my otherwise brilliant and productive friends (like scoundrels and their flags) take final refuge in character assainations; they ignore the issue and deny the relation between our consumption and brutality. So you can go ahead and roll your eyes and marginalize me/socially penalize me: play on my insecurities. And you can feign ignorance, but you’re not stupid, you’re just selfish. And you’re a slave to your impulse. And I kinda thought we all shared common threads in that we gravitated here to challenge the conventions we’ve been fed by a culture that treats (living, breathing, feeling) creatures like (biological) machines. And if you buy that shit then how long ’till it’s me who serves as your commodity? Through (for example), institutionalized violence and opression of workers and women raped by sexism (and how about native americans?). Do you still insist on feigning indignance (aka: indignation) to reason? To collective self-interest? Tell you what- I’ll call you on your shit, PLEASE CALL ME ON MINE. Then we can grow together and make this shit-hole planet better in time. So why not consider someone else: STOP CONSUMING ANIMALS.

Of course going vegetarian changed Silverstone's life. She was pretty much blacklisted from Hollywood after daring to stay curvy (remember 'Fatgirl'?), then suddenly started getting series/starring roles again thanks to her new, emaciated figure. No doubt helped along by cutting out most animal products.

****"In regards to using women, why are we holding them to a higher standard than other groups that advertise?"****

because other groups who advertise this way are not doing it for moral reasons. peta's whole stance is that we should not exploit animals and yet they exploit womens bodies "to get their message across".
hypocrites.

Lyra_silvertongue: I mostly saw people defending vegans/vegetarians and talking about how they don't associate with PETA. The only slightly offensive comment that I saw was suggesting that vegetarians/vegans are malnourished, and I think it was slightly taken out of context. I'm not sure if I missed something, but I don't know where you're getting that.

Heather: She's hardly emaciated.