Apparently women who like sex too much are responsible for a scourge of impotence among college men.
The Washington Post reports on the problem of younger men experiencing erectile dysfunction, which is supposedly caused in part by young women initiating sex.
According to surveys, young women are now as likely as young men to have sex and by countless reports are also as likely to initiate sex, taking away from males the age-old, erotic power of the chase."I know lots of girls for whom nothing is off limits," says Helen Czapary, a junior at the University of Maryland. "The pressure on the guys is a huge deal."
But it’s not just women’s horniness that’s a huge turnoff, it’s our damned opinions too:
One can argue that a young woman speaking her mind is a sign of equality. "That's a good thing," says [teacher Robin] Sawyer, father of four daughters. "But for some guys, it has come at a price. It's turned into ED in men you normally wouldn't think would have ED."
Amanda at Pandagon asks the obvious question: "But why would a woman who speaks her mind threaten the very existence of erections?"
Answer: It goes against how many young men perceive sex-- as “authority and dominance.� Seriously.
Amal Amireh at Improvisations: Arab Woman Progressive Voice has this to say:
If a man needs a helpless damsel, an unwilling partner (otherwise known as rape victim) or a virgin to get it up, then it is better for humanity that he doesn't.
No joke.
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This is really bizarre. I’m going to go ahead and ignore all the feminist boilerplate about how males want implicitly/explicitly to rape women. Instead I’ll comment on the Post story. I think this is just another “sex sells newspapers� story along with “crazy kids these days� stories.
My understanding was that young men are stealing Viagra from their Dads because it will keep a healthy persons Johnson up for hours.
Maybe there just so used to popping that little pill, that plain old sex is not enough any more.
Also, when a man initiates he knows he’s ready. If the women initiates – he may not be ready at that point. If more girls are initiating these days (???), then perhaps that’s the reason for distress. (And the modern mind always reaches for a chemical solution to any little problem)
Fair?
Young men need to get over them selves and relize that youg women could be just as or more sexual and vocal then they are
Hey Fitz, the article says that young men view sex as “authority and dominance," not the post.
A guy can't get it up so he blames the girl? Unbelievable!!!
I think it is great when a girl initiates sex, as long as the guy is secure enough to admit when he's not in the mood.
College boys are so sad. Seems to me like this is just part of that trend in our country of men acting like 12-year-olds as long as they can get away with it. Sigh...
i don't know, i have a hard time believing this actually true. seems to me more media hysteria over girls being too sexual.
Don't believe everything you read in the WP.
But the guys didn't seem to be blaming the girls. The one even felt guilty for letting the girl think that it was because of her.
The uppity women angle seems out of place in an article that should have been about unhealthy lifestyles and social pressures leading to problems for young men. Why should young men feel like they have to be studs who are ready to go with every woman they see? And hey, being in a loving relationship is a turn-on! Is it such a surprise that not being able to connect to women because of a divorce between sex and intimacy causes problems?
exactly, noname. does the wapo even acknowledge the existence of male "not in the mood"?
I think a guy who can't get it up, who "isn't ready," can still have great sex with a woman. It's no reason to turn a woman down. Penetration's not necessary for sex to be good for many women. He can still be there *for her*. Women do it for the men they love all the time. It's payback time.
Also, when a man initiates he knows he’s ready. If the women initiates – he may not be ready at that point.
This is a problem? Turn it around:
When a woman initiates she knows she’s ready. If the man initiates – she may not be ready at that point.
And that's why we have foreplay. It's fun for everyone!
I really don't understand how they dragged feminists into this honestly... Is it just some knee-jerk reaction?
Holy crap!!! Sometimes men can't get hard?!
DUH!! Sometimes women can't get off... I guess I've just never met a man who judges his worth on his cock. Maybe I'm lucky.....?
It's that these random idiots statements do not reflect any majority of men or any sort of real truth.
This is some general unstudied folksy opinions about it.
OHHHH oppression!! This one mans statements of course reveal all of male man kinds thinking and he has found the root cause of ED!!! When’s he gonna be on the cover of time? No time soon because these few peoples opinions mean crap.
Want my crappy opinion? Colleges have become misandristic, our youth culture is has become misandristic, society is becoming misandristic like any anti culture before us, what we say and "joke" about becomes what we think of said group. The fact that young men are dropping out of high school not attending university and offing themselves at increasing rates might hint at a general lack of self esteem among young men, depression and low opinions of self bring on ED. Just a thought.
Another thought. We all assume men are always in the mood, A man turning down sex can never ever just, not feel like it, it HAS to be is ED!!! Buy some pills!
Perhaps or past more "patriarchal" dating structure allowed for men to only engage in intiation when they were indeed in the mood, so women never initiated during times when they weren’t wanting or were.
Opinions DO NOT turn men off, female initiators DO NOT rock our fragile little egos to the core, maybe women need to think of men more like equals and just except that we are not walking dildos and there is nothing wrong with us if we are not in the mood, here or there.
But know it must be scrutinized and twisted, capitalized on to make men look pathetic and to create another oppression fantasy for the poor oppressed feminists of the American blog world.
Sorry,I was not in the mood.
"If a man needs a helpless damsel, an unwilling partner (otherwise known as rape victim) or a virgin to get it up, then it is better for humanity that he doesn't."
"No joke."
How irrelevant. Really adds a nice touch at the end to further needlessly vilify men.
The media loves to run stories like this that reinforce conceptions of masculinity and femininity; but i have to agree that college age men in general are very threatened by opinionated, sexually independent women
"The media loves to run stories like this that reinforce conceptions of masculinity and femininity; but i have to agree that college age men in general are very threatened by opinionated, sexually independent women"
Bullshit. I'm in college right now and I can tell you that this is only really true in those that haven't had a sexual experience before coming to college - and thats only due to the nervousness of being inexperienced.
Speaking from experience...I think that there probably IS a link btw ED and women initiating sex b/c if she (WE) initiate it, it does in fact take the power that they (men) systematically use over us by having sex with us then throwing us away in a couple of hours, days, months, maybe a few years if you're lucky. It neutralizes their dick so to speak before they can even get it up. Unfortunately, they've probably brought it onto themselves by consuming too much (male produced) pop culture from idiots, where the woman is airbrushed and 2D, therefore, anything with an actual brain is a challenge. This is why so many educated women are single and there is alot of ED.
On a feminst blog, smart women make guys dicks limp, in real life smart, non man-hating, sexualy confidant women are having a lot of fun.
My totally unfounded and undereducated opinion: It's probably due to declining health. We're fatter, lazier, and outer-of-shape than ever before. Can't help but think this would have an effect on the average of nationwide joystick performance. I mean, heck, EVERYTHING seems to have an effect on that particular body part, why not add it to our ever-growing "diseases of abundance" list?
hujo, take a deep breath. You're re-stating the exact same problems that Jessica had with this article, but then somehow trying to force it into being a way to negate feminism. Notice it's not the actual young men who are claiming a problem here, but the reporter. The reporter doesn't actually show what or how big the problem is, or even if it exists, but just gives a few anecdotes about guys not being able to get it up. It's a made-up reason for a probably made-up problem, but somehow both the lack of a problem and the existence of the problem are both the fault of feminists. Just for a second, listen to the things people here are saying instead of what you expected them to say.
smacca -- that's exactly what I was thinking. Why do we have to pin it on something so implauseable as this when it's a health issue?
I mean, if they're going to write "kids these days" articles, wouldn't it be more reasonable to pin it on the insane amount of -drinking- kids are doing these days?
I think the "boys" referred to in this article are the same type of small minority that think it's cool to slip a roofie into a girl's drink.
If more normal "men" were studied, an increased level of stimulation might be found in men that were initiated sex by women.
If you frequent the college bar scene, this is not a suprise.
I'm going to agree with Jessica. I've yet to meet a guy who didn't get sprung by a smart, articulate, honest girl.
"I'm going to agree with Jessica. I've yet to meet a guy who didn't get sprung by a smart, articulate, honest girl."
Liar. Unless you don't get out much.
Um, yeah. I definitely just went through and facebooked all of the dudes in that article.
I'm a creepy one.
THis proves that men aren't sex animals or ruled by their dicks as feminist like to promote. Men are human beings and sometimes don't feel like having sex. I know I've faked my fair share of orgasms to make my girl friends feel happy so I can go back to study for a final or midterm. I should have said I couldn't get it up, so I would have more time to go to the library.
Me again--did you miss the post's entire point? Check this out to get clued in.
Ha ha ha! Oh man, I totally had a relationship (rather short-lived) with a guy like this... lots of ED due to fear of women and an unhealthy dose of Christian guilt. Not to mention a porn addiction. I post this anonymously because it wouldn't surprise me if to this day (3 years later) he trolls around feminist websites looking for things to get angry about.
However, I do agree with "Me again" that this does help prove men aren't ruled by their penises... too bad the article didn't mention that possibility at all... they immediately jumped to "Men are turned off by strong women" instead of "Men don't want to fuck 100% of the time, duh."
I agree with Me Again, too. Wanna know a secret? Some of us don't want to f--- even ONE percent of the time. (Pass it on!)
Well i dunno, but uppity women have always really turned me on. Viva!
I like the idea that men aren't always-at-the-ready boinking machines as much as I like the idea that women aren't always-at-the-ready boinking machines. Because isn't that what a good wife is supposed to be: a maid in the house, a cook in the kitchen and a whore in the bedroom? I would love to see this ridiculous stereotype go away for everyone
Whether you're a woman or a man, sometimes you're just not in the mood. The end.
Sylke says: "I like the idea that men aren't always-at-the-ready boinking machines as much as I like the idea that women aren't always-at-the-ready boinking machines."
It's not an idea. It's a fact. In spite of some women want to believe, men are human, and we have emotions.
The stereotype that promotes men as sex machines hurts women because when we turn them down they automatically think they're ugly or sluts, so most guys have to reassure and console these women, which is very time consuming if you have things to do. So it's better to just fake an orgasm after satifying her, then tend to other important things.
This way the woman doesn't feel rejected, ugly, or whatever the latest women's magazine is telling her to feel, and life can go on happily.
The term erectile dysfunction was mentioned in the article
"The Washington Post reports on the problem of younger men experiencing erectile dysfunction, which is supposedly caused in part by young women initiating sex. According to surveys, young women"
What exactly is it? Can I find more details in yahoo directory
I mean, when men want it, sometimes a woman will say no, and sometimes she will call not giving consent rape. WTF IS WRONG WITH WOMEN?
Then women start having sex more often, but that hurts men's ability to get it up. WTF IS WRONG WITH WOMEN?
/sarcasm
Hey, me again and bmmg39. Sorry to burst your bubble there, but the idea that men are horny, mindless creatures is not promoted by feminism.
Or would you call most of the owners of strip clubs and brothels feminists? The makers of "Superbad" and "American Pie"?
Get informed.
Also, I find the idea that you believe you are informing feminists about what feminism is really about very entertaining.
Wow...this thread got pretty weird pretty quickly. It looks like the trolls are taking a very natural negative reaction to the "don't be who you are because men can't get it up, you slut" bullshit and turning it into some big "see I KNEW them feminists hated men!" thing.
"The stereotype that promotes men as sex machines hurts women"
I don't think you'll find anyone to disagree with you on this particular sentiment. However, maybe try to think about where this stereotype may have come from. (Hint: it's not us man-hating feminists out there trying to push for more sexually agressive men).
It's always a hoot when anti-feminists blame feminists for promoting gender stereotypes. Look in the mirror, patriarchy!