Of course this is what a journalist will focus on when working for a mainstream media network. It's safe, it's easy, and it makes girls look bad and jocks look innocent. They're obviously not going to take question anything serious, or make you think. Why would they want to go and do that?

relatedly, i decided "i am charlotte simmons" would be full of shit when tom wolfe told npr that an athlete could pick any woman he saw and she would sleep with him.

anais nin said that we see things not as they are, but as we are. given her assessment that college girls are "asking for it," perhaps this abc reporter would fuck anything with a ball in its hand when she was in school. good for her.

lacrosstitutes?

og my f-ing...?

jess, are you okay? you seem to throw up in your mouth an awful lot and perhaps you should check into changing your diet.

that said, that article is absolutely disgusting. wow.

haha. yeah...since my diet these days consists of misogynist articles, you're probably right.

You know what makes me throw up in my mouth:

An accusation of rape is made without any [hysical evidence to back it up whatsoever and you think that on the word of a "Stripper" that 3 young collge students should have their future's destroyed.

"Misogynist" be damned - Look in the mirror, Manhaters.

Wow, "manhaters." Never heard that one before.

"without any physical evidence to back it up?"

DOJ-VAWA has a 141-page report on procedure for a forensic sexual assault examination.

Go read it, Jayhawk. They don't say her injuries were consistent with assault based on a cursory glance.

If you use a word ie misogynist, with such gay abandon (old phrase, no pun intended) at least know the complementary antonym: misandrist

Just out of curiousity Jessica, why is it that you never post any articles where men are oppressed, disadvantaged or demeaned in some way without ridiculing the article?

You'll have to be more specific. Are you suggesting that this article is talking about men being oppressed?

Wow, "manhaters." Never heard that one before.

That is exactly what I was going to say! I think we should get Adrienne Mand Lewin to report on it, in fact. We'll say it was said by a jock.

You know, I used to sit back and listen to a lot of this crap, form my own opinions, but then keep them quiet, because I figured who really cares what I have to say? I am now learning a lot of people care, and the one's who don't are the one's who need to hear it the most. Lacrosstitutes? You know, IF a woman CHOOSES to sleep with a man for any reason SHE CHOOSES, fine! If SHE CHOOSES to use this moniker to describe this part of HER life fine!! Peronally, I think it's GREAT!! SHE has CHOSEN to call HERSELF a "lacrosstitute", and SHE now has taken ownership over the name. The "lacrosswimp" no longer holds any power in the moniker. His use of it no longer means anything to HER, and better yet to any other male, who in some way felt a sense of power in it, or felt it demeaning. I normally find name calling or labelling abhorent, but lets just start refering to the lacrosse players and their friends who use that term as "lacrosswimps" in the name of equality in name labeling. If they choose to take ownership of the name, well good for them!! I somehow see it as a harder sell then "lacrosstitutes" was, but maybe some of those athletes and their friends may suprise us out there. I also found the term "laxtitutes" sort of ironic for this article. First of all, that this kind of crap is still rampant not only in Universities, but everywhere. Secondly, and most importantly, that it sounds like this was a female journalist who covered this drivel. Which brings me back to "laxtitutes", since I think a good dose of ex-lax could have taken care of this crappy reporting, and the crappy attitude of the athletes and the Universities that support them. Worried about team success, future of you sports programs, and the future of your job as a journalist? Should be. I think I just heard a collective flush of toilets across America!!

Of course not Jessica. I was merely wondering when you were going to focus on both sexes in regards to equality.

Why would she? This is a feminist site.

I see what you're saying, but unfortunately, there ARE women who like to sleep with athletes. I think it's part of what gives them their feeling of entitlement. "You're GOING to get fucked, whether you like it or not, because I'm the big sports star."

Right, and feminism generally claims to be EGALITARIAN.

Feminism is egalitarian in that it gives the women's side of the story. The men's side is amply covered by all of the other media (witness, for example, the story Jessica is commenting on), and does not require further support.

"Feminism is egalitarian in that it gives the women's side of the story. The men's side is amply covered by all of the other media (witness, for example, the story Jessica is commenting on), and does not require further support. "

Bollocks. When was the last time you saw anything saying "men are being opressed/what have you" in the media? When was the last time you saw a government initiative to look into women on men domestic violence, or sexual harrasment. Anyone who says such things is claimed to be a reactionary to feminism by feminists.

Look at the article on here regarding problems facing boys in education, and on this site it's ridiculed.

On that note, feministing.com would have a much larger support base if it wrote fairly for both sexes, rather than just women, aswell as having much of the criticism dulled down, probably including the removal of feministing.org

But then it wouldn't be FEMINISTing.com, would it?

Clearly, the women who run this site don't really care if men think that they should cover male issues, or if that would give them a broader support base. It's their site, and they can run it how they choose.

I see this as a place for females to have a voice. Men have their own places to have a voice. This does not have to be one of them.

Why wouldn't it be FEMINISTing.com?

"Clearly, the women who run this site don't really care if men think that they should cover male issues"

Right, well then men shouldn't have to care about women's issues. But wait. Feminism forces that onto many men.

"Men have their own places to have a voice."

Really? Where's that? Some MRA site that's just as bad since it doesn't cover womens issues? Show me a place that covers men and womens issues please.

I think that feministing.com would be truly great if it covered both mens and womens issues and was egalitarian, but hey - thats just me.

If this site covered both the strife of women AND men in today's society, it would no doubt be too big and too bogged down to offer any real information. There are several sites containing information for both sexes, such as shatteredmen.com, which discusses the issue of domestic violence against both women and men and secretsofmarriedmen.com provides a forum for men and women to discuss married life among each other. You can Google "men's activism" and come up with lots of options - they are out there, and there is nothing wrong with women having a space of their own as a comfortable balance.

Laccrostitutes. It's repugnant to me, yet I know that both the women and men who participate in such "transactions" are (usually) willing. Too bad the men who use "laccrostitutes" don't have a durogatory moniker of their own, but I suppose the virgin-whore dichotomy is rampant on campus, and any guy who "gets some" is a fekking hero. I wonder why this oh-so-basic knowledge of school life merited valuable article space?

Yeah guys, don't rape, beat women and yell racial slurs because it'll mess up your schedule.

Posted by Zaij: "Bollocks. When was the last time you saw anything saying "men are being opressed/what have you" in the media?"

Bollocks, yourself, dearheart. What about the massive amounts of print devoted to "the war on boys," to "the feminization or emasculization of America," to the massive amounts of pseudo-scientific socio-bio "men will be men" crap? You can't go a day without finding example after example of media that whines about how women are taking over the country and men are getting shafted.

Y'know, obviously no one here would be willing to flip the switch on the lacross players right now; we're simply espousing a healthy skepticism to the slanted media coverage -- which really hasn't been too kind to a woman who did, according to medical reports, evince physical injuries consistent with rape.

As for the lack of DNA evidence, well, given that the lacross players knew she was a stripper, it doesn't take much imagination to suppose that the players held ideas about her similar to the one hinted at by Jayhawke -- that stripper = "dirty, promiscuous, diseased" -- and decided to use condoms when raping her. Certainly it's not out of the realm of possibility.

That said, no one here is outright condemning them, because there hasn't been a trial yet. We're just taking exception to some truly poor media coverage.

Now, the more controversial part of my comment: I do think Zaij has a point, although not in this particular context. In my opinion, one can't really be a feminist unless one is dedicated to deconstructing gender norms in order to work for gender equity, period. For that reason, I recognize myself as a feminist when I voice support for gay rights and, say, for heterosexual male rights in terms of child custody. I would never say a mother should receive automatic preference during custody debates on the basis of her gender, any more than I would say a stripper's claim to rape should be viewed more skeptically because of her profession. I think a lot of people in this community would agree with me. I also think Jayhawke and Zaij are missing the point when they decide to bring up the issue in *this* context, because the lacross players have been indicted, not charged; and to protest the indictment as an unjust discimination against men is basically to suggest that women of certain professions shouldn't be allowed to use the legal system to pursue justice when a crime is committed against them. The players will get a trial, and they'll either be declared innocent or guilty. Period. I'd suggest you save your accusations of feminist blindness for other cases in which you might have more ground to stand on.

Ya'll stop feeding the troll. Damn. Complaining about how hard men have it and that they deserve rights too displays either a profound ignorance of actual reality or willful cretinism. And is a classic derail tactic, to boot. Don't encourage him. He's just trying to get you to focus on him and his tiny...brain.

I have yet to see a big news rape case that DIDN'T ask "Was she a slut?" Because then, you know, it's ok for her to be raped.

Because, you know, men only bother raping people when they can't get any otherwise...

Sorry, MJB - did you call me a troll? Can I ask what I did that was troll-like in behaviour?

I went to an all-women's undergraduate college and there, for the first time in their lives, men who took a few classes on campus or just showed up to troll for nookie found out what it was like, seemingly for the first time, to be utterly ignored or simply not in a position to manipulate a social or academic environment through their gender. And it made some of them ANGRY. I'm pretty sure the very angry are part of men's rights goups now. Their jock status did not matter, their nads did not matter - whatever they did, they were OUTSIDERS and made well aware of the fact that this was not THEIR territory. This site is likewise not for the patriarcy to further assert its right to hegemony. It's our thing, yo. Deal with it or get lost.

I had a similar experience to bmc90's: I attended what had once been, and still primarily was, an all-women's college. I was in a post-grad program, and envied the undergrads. It was amazing to me to walk around in an environment in which young women felt safe (neither defensive nor hostile, but simply safe and confident). It was kind of neat to see the men try to cope with being off the radar. But it was even more interesting to me to observe these young women in such an environment, neither conscious of nor concerned about what the few guys around thought. Refreshing!

Hold up BMC, I'm not trying to "further assert the patriarchy's right to hegemony". I'm trying to get some critical thinking going, aswell as maybe a bit of balance on issues. I hardly think it's appropriate to post an article about an offensive t-shirt to women and blame the patriarchy, when men have the same problem or what have you.

And sorry BMC, maybe it's just because I live in Australia, but I haven't really seen gender play a role in anything when it comes to University here. The people here are individuals.

"Girls are dying to fuck athletes (translation: they don’t have to rape anyone). I think I just threw up in my mouth a little."

Throwing up in your mouth must be your response to a truth you can't handle.

um..... clearly you guys are stupid. no one really likes women, they just pretend to. and the woman who was allegedly raped is just trying to get money, have you seen her criminal record.
ps this page is a load of shit to all girls out there. you guys say hitler is a terrible man, so stop brainwashing little girls about nothing.