Apparently abortion restrictions aren’t quite enough for Kansas (home state to show-me-your-medical-records-Phill Kline).
The Kansas House has just passed a bill that would let high schools include “graphic� descriptions of abortion procedures in sex ed classes.
When the bill was debated Thursday, Rep. Jan Pauls amended it to say any discussion about abortion must include a description of all methods of abortion, including what state law calls partial birth abortion. The information must include "the probable physical sensations of pain a fetus feels or detects" during the various procedures.
This isn’t about teaching teens the facts of life--it’s about inundating them with anti-choice propaganda while they’re young. What kind of valid sex ed class could teach so-called partial birth abortion? The procedure isn’t even medically recognized! (Click here for more on this rhetorical bullshit.)
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All right but can they include graphic discriptions of sex acts too? After all where's the abortion without the deviant permarital sex that made it necessary?
This really is so twisted. What's perhaps most ridiculous about this is that the Kansas schools don't even teach kids about how to PREVENT a pregnancy that could lead to an abortion. Why not embrace NARAL's "Prevention First"? Because for many anti-choice activists, it's not really about fetuses and protecting human life. It's about making sure that women remain controlled by our fertility.
The probable physical sensations a fetus feels?
Duh, nothning.
Until it's so late in gestation that they're only performed for health or life of the mother, in which case it's kind of irrelevent.
Speaking of which, why are they so fixated on fetal pain? The mother feels pain while giving birth, and that tends to take longer, too. (Maybe they ought to include graphic descriptions of that, and imply that abortion will enable people to avoid that pain.)
I don't see anything wrong with being made aware of the consequences of their actions. If it prevents one teen from having unprotected sex (or haveing sex at all) then maybe the program is worth looking at. I'm not sure why all you lefties are against this..... I thought you believed in fixing problems through education.
Kansas schools don't teach sex ed and basic contraception? That is news to me. Maybe a good middle of the road discussion of sex and it's possible consequences (including abortions) should be an opt out class like it is in most states. I believe that if children(teens) knew the whole truth(including the bad), most would make the right decisions.
This is unfortunate, as young women deserve the chance to make up their own minds about this issue without a heavy helping of fear and blood and guts. I'm always dismayed when sex is introduced to young people as ONLY a dangerous thing.
This situation reminds me of what's happening in Colombia around the decriminalization of abortion. At this point, abortions are illegal in all situations. A court case is pending now that will decide whether abortion will be decriminalized in three situations: when the mother's life is in danger, when the fetus has severe deformation, or when the woman is raped. The anti-choice side of the case went into schools and asked hundreds of children ages 5-12 to write to the judges and tell them why they did not agree with abortions. Can you imagine how they must have explained abortions to a five year old?
A truly sick, sick society!!!
tom,
why do i get this feeling you have no idea what you're talking about. abstinence education has been shown over and over again to be completely and totally ineffective.
check this reference:
pretty straightforward if you ask me. this is the same line of using education as an excuse to indoctrinate kids into a dogmatic political battle about ethics... not about responsibility.
that's why abstinence education is wholly ineffective and that's why this thinly veiled attempt to scare kids into surrendering their own rights early will be wholly ineffective in doing anything but that.
this isn't about teaching anyone about consequences... it's about teaching kids pseudo-science about how abortion is baby-killing.
Puck, Who said anything about abstinance only education?
Also, What is pseudo about an abortion?
I don't think you need to teach the kids the pleasures of sex, they'll find that out for themselves, but you do need to teach the consequences.
Hardly indoctrination. Just responsible education.
Tom, I think it very irresponsible to subject "children" to so called graphic descriptions of the abortion process, for one, most representations of the process are entirely dishonest at best and at worst flagrant fabrication. And in the final analysis, results in nothing more than desensitisation.
If their intention is to truly make "children" aware (which it is not), of the consequences of abortion ... all it would take is to show the any number of 4D images available or to have sets made, covering the different developmental stages of the embryo/foetus, it doesn't take a genius to realise the consequences.
This is about inciting hate, discrimination, power and every other horrid human trait that has existed throughout time ... no, this is witch-hunt brainwashing.