The students at Montana’s Bozeman High School’s got the shock of their lives when speaker Tina Marie Holewinski came to speak—it turns out that condoms cause cancer and STIs can be transmitted through skin contact!
Holewinski, a speaker for organization True Lies (nice name), also told students that birth control pills are only 20 percent effective, and cause cervical cancer and sterility. And of course she mentioned that if they stopped screwing, they could be virgins again. By the way, she was paid $1500 for relaying these gems.
What’s truly terrifying is that this talk completely contradicts the school’s existing comprehensive sex ed program. So even if your kid is lucky enough to go to a school where misinformation-laden abstinence only education isn’t taught, you still have to worry about crazy-ass speakers.
Thanks to Allyson for the story.
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Condoms probably will cause cancer in the long-run, but that woman is doing a great wrong by suggesting they can regain their virginity. Once it's lost, it's gone forever.
We need more men like Jonathan Edwards, we need 50 of them, preaching, one in every state, preaching the gospel of God unto this reprobate nation of sinners who think that promiscuity is okay because for men it's "Manly" and for women it's "Liberating". I think promiscuous people have major emotional issues.
If something is done soon, the entire country and indeed world will be infected with a multitude of STDs. The answer is morality and getting back to that ole time religion, not condoms and birth-control pills.
Back when I was in high school (I graduated in 1997, so it's been a while now), we didn't have *any* sex ed whatsoever, not even an abstinence only program... nothing! (It was/is a very conservative, small, southern town, where common belief tends to be that if we teach kids any kind of sex-ed, they'll suddenly start screwing like bunnies.) Anyway, we did have several guest speakers (at least one per year) who talked to us about abstinence. I clearly remember being told that condoms have an incredibly high rate of failure, and that even if it doesn't break, you're still likely to get pregnant and/or HIV. I was smart enough to realize the woman telling us this was full of shit, but I remember some young men sitting behind me commenting that if it wasn't going to pretect from pregnancy/HIV, they were just going to stop wearing "the damn things"!
I didn't know what "blowjob" meant until I was 15. I really didn't know what masturbation was until 14-15. I had no real concept of anything about sex, much until 14-16.
I still don't know the "Baseball bases" references in regards to sex, etc. I'm not any worse off for it, indeed I'm better off.
I've dealt with people offering sex people, I just ignore and avoid them. I am offended when women offer me sex, I don't really want that. I'm more looking for a relationship, companionship, etc, and the sex will come later. (that's how I've always seen the right way of things as being)
I'm not a doctor, but I am pretty sure that herpes simplex I & II, genital warts and mollescuem (sp?) are transmitted through skin contact. Those are all considered STIs.
Birth Control Pills contain estrogen, which -in excessive amounts- is believed to be a factor in the development of Uterine fibroids which may lead to uterine cancer. Insufficient amounts of estrogen are also linked to several types of cancer (including breast cancer).
Not only that, but infrequent ejaculation leads to prostate cancer. Proatate inflammation can be releived by inserting a finger into the rectum and gently massaging the gland to relieve the backed up fluid.
So it's kind of hard to use the whole "punishment from God" argument, which I thought was thrown out back in the mid 80's when children and elderly women started coming down with AIDS.
Accuracy in information is vital to good health. And regular check-ups to promote early detection seems more effective than religion when it comes to preventing cancer. Faith is better used as a means of dealing with the pain of a serious illness, rather than protection against disease.
I went to an all girls Catholic high school, and we studied sex & birth control in two required classes. The first was in Health class sophomore year (we studied sexually transmitted diseases and pregnancy) and the second was in a class called "Christian Marriage and family" which we were required to take the first semester of senior year. A lot of my classmates were dismissed for portions of the class due to their parents' objection.
I graduated in 1989, so I'm not sure if they're teaching the same classes today. I have checked the government website to see if they've received funding from the faith based charity grants, and didn't see them listed.
Good ol' Catholic nuns, they know better than to risk the health of their students based on religious doctorine. They taught us that we should wait until marriage, and never condoned sex outside of it, but they knew how risky it was not to prepare us in case we didn't follow that doctorine. And they wouldn't let the president bribe them to do otherwise.
I sure do hate to think that God is smiting them with breast cancer just because they never bore children.
Good news! I can somewhat breathe again! ye ha!
Anyway, this is probably my last post for now, I have sleep to tend to and then a pile of work in the morning.
About children and elderly folks getting it, remember, in the Great Flood of Noah, God spared not the day old sucklings, not the toddlers, not the weak, not the infirm, he saved only Noah and seven others, out of the population in the billions.
The doctrine of the Flood is quite clear, God is one of wrath and hatred, He hates some and loves others, as He wishes. He does what suits Him to do, if you are loved by God it is for no other reason than He arbitrarily decided to love you.
If you are hated by God it is for no other reason than that he arbitrarily decided to hate you.
This is all covered in Romans 9:10-21
I feel bad that my first comment on this site is rather inconsequential, but...
I couldn't help but notice that there is only one woman in the group photo for True Lies.
What the hell kind of name is that, anyway? Lies that we keep telling ourselves until they are true? Lies that we pass off as true?
That guy with the eyebrow IS creepy.
Uhh, oops, I commented on the wrong post. But at least I didn't quote the bible.
Militant Calvinist, I'm curious. If, as Calvin preached, our destiny is foreordained, what is the use of preaching to a crowd that uniformly is composed not only of sinners (under your doctrine), but of unrepentant sinners who reject your denomination, the divinity or christ and even the existence of god? What is it you believe you can accomplish by preaching on this blog?
Thomas
If everything is foreordained whats the use of anything?
You ask what the use of anything is. You don't get, I am typing here right now only because God has predestinated it that I type here right now.
Free will is a mere illusion. I don't believe in that pernicious doctrine, it's not biblical at all.
I suggest you all read Ephesians if you want to learn more about it.
Ezekiel 3:11 states "And go, get thee to them of the captivity, unto the children of thy people, and speak unto them, and tell them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear."
I have a duty, as God commands, to preach to the ends of the Earth, whether they will hear or not.
Isaiah 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
That is right, that is what I do, I preach at my college, I am sort of recognized as a bible authority. Folks gathered around in mass numbers ot hear my sermons, I most have preached for about 5 hours one night, well into the early morning. There were at least 30 people present, decent for the time and the fact that there were only about 300 people in the dorm.
I preach mostly on issues of morality, sexuality, the wrath of God, etc.
Next semester I'll be focusing mostly on the bible and gender roles and what is ordained by God and what is confusion and blasphemy.
Wow, that's so sad! You know that you can really become a priest or a minister someday if that's what you want to do with your life. You don't have to pretend that your flock is a crowd of college kids who happened to be there when you were giving your "sermon." You could have your own perish full of people who were really listening, and not just the people who are standing in line for the beer keg you're next to,
What I would like to know is why you chose a site dedicated to women and the issues they face, on which to give your unsolicited sermons. Did the men chase you off their sites with your tail betweicken your legs, or do you just feel more comfortable harassing women?
And BTW, according to the Bible, God loves all men and women. He hasn't preordained who he loves and who he won't. John Calvin was a early Renaissance kook, who is no more deserving of holy recognition than David Koresh, L. Ron Hubbard or the Lord of the Rings for that matter.
Frank Chu also drew a large crowd with his public sermons (here's a link or two in case you're not familiar with him)
http://www.12galaxies.20m.com
http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2003/03/21/transcript-four-minutes-with-frank-chu
Thanks for showing why we shouldn't let religious preaching prevail over medicine when it comes to issues of importance such as health.
My friends announced that I'd be preaching and it was announced over the campus radio, and I was even given a vacant classroom to preach in, and about 25 people showed up. They were there solely to hear my sermon.
As for my other preaching, I was preaching in an informal setting and about 30 people gathered around to listen and ask questions and hear my answers.
I don't appreciate being marginalized and patronized when I've not done likewise to you.
Anyway, as to why I am here, I think that as Ezekiel 3:11 and Isaiah 58:1 command, it's my duty to tell people when they're in the grave error and living in ungodliness. Thus here I am. :)
Okay, I get it, you're a troll. I suppose if I had looked back into the archives, I would have figured out to ignore you early on, and saved myself some time. Every message board or blog worth a hoot has one, and I guess you're it. Out of respect for the women who run this site, this will the last time I feed the troll.
I am an athiest, so anything that comes out of your mouth about God is not going to have any effect on me, other than to disgust or annoy me. But I can see that religion is very important to some people, and I would not want to deny anyone the comfort they get from believing that they will live on after death and be reunited for their loved ones, rewarded for the good things they've done in life.
The problem I have with religion is that it gives some people a sense of entitlement and an unwillingness to accept reality in matters of science. No one knows if there is a God; but we do know that condoms don't have a 20% failure rate, UNLESS you don't know how to use them properly. They would fail a lot less often than they do if everyone knew not to use oil based lube (or vaseline/baby oil) with latex condoms, and to pinch the air out of the resevoir tip as you're rolling it down, but even so, the failure rate is a lot lower than 20%.
Most Christians, including nuns, don't take the bible literally. I remember Sister Gervaise saying that the tale of Noah's ark was like a parable- it's a story that's told in the bible but never really happened. None of the nuns at my school (and most Catholics, Episcopalians and non-nutso faiths) don't believe the story of Adam and Eve either. Anyone who still adheres to the notion that God created the world a few thousand years ago, making man out of clay and woman out of his rib, and that it took six days to do (resting on the seventh day- well, is just plain nuts.
You need to adapt your faith to keep up with the times and science or you'll wind up looking like a fool. Some people are just so stubborn, or so needy in matters of faith, that you could rub their nose in clear, consistent evidence proving them wrong and they will still keep quoting the same bible verses.
Yes, I was being patronizing, but you're here telling women that they're sinners and should follow your out-dated preachings and deny ourselves the pleasures in life to follow the teachings of a man who has been nothing more than worm food for the last 400+ years. That, too, is an insult. And it's insulting to assume that your lifestyle is any more important or correct than everyone else's. You should realize that you aren't saving people, you're attacking those who don't share your views.
My guess is that you were never very popular growning up, didn't have much luck with the girls, didn't get much notice in class from your teachers or classmates. And this is the one thing that makes you feel important, and like people are listening to you. You think that God is smiling on you because you're doing what he wants you to do, but you and I both know that he's never actually spoken to you.
Since you only live once and then you die, ceasing to exist forever after, perhaps you should enjoy some of the pleasures this world has to offer, insteading of wasting it on preaching to those who will never buy what you have to say. Be kind to other people, and allow them to have their own beliefs and opinions. Stop taking the bible so seriously. It's full of contradictions because it was written by many people over hundreds of years, by people who never actually saw God nor heard his voice. Haven't you ever wondered why we have ancient artifacts predating Moses, yet no one botherd to keep the two tablets that God supposedly wrote the commandments on?
You seem like the kind of guy who might one day snap and turn into a sniper in the middle of a shopping mall. I would suggest getting some therapy. Have fun with your response. From now on I'll just be ignoring you.
You are entirely wrong about me. I was given great attention in school, I had almost always straight As, I was in advanced classes, the Quest program, the AP programs, etc.
I was harassed and offered promiscuous sex at least a 1/2 dozen times by rather attractive yet immoral girls (I turned it all down). I never would have had any difficulty in getting sex if I wanted it. I don't believe in premarital sex though.
I was one of the most popular and widely known students in my high school. The largest high school in the state of Ohio. As a matter of fact I was so well-known that kids in nearby districts knew of me as well. (I was the most out-spoken right-winger and as commander of the local militia and right-wing movement, I have a certain degree of local fame amongst my peers)
Oh, and the bible specifically says that we are to be on guard for those who want to change it in the later days to accommodate society and their personal lifestyles.
I preached a sermon about that very topic a few weeks ago at college.
I don't know if you've noticed, MC, but people have been changing the Bible for about, oh, 1900 years. Every religious institution has reinterpreted, mistranslated and just plain ingnored major chunks of the Bible to suit their own pre-existing viewpoints and political stances.