Vatican to Anglicans: Come be bigots with us!


“Join us! We’re not really into powerful women or gay people, either!

The New York Times reports on an unusual move by Vatican officials to try to lure Anglicans into the Catholic Church:

In an extraordinary bid to lure traditionalist Anglicans en masse, the Vatican said Tuesday that it would make it easier for Anglicans uncomfortable with their church’s acceptance of female priests and openly gay bishops to join the Roman Catholic Church while retaining many of their traditions.

Anglicans would be able “to enter full communion with the Catholic Church while preserving elements of the distinctive Anglican spiritual and liturgical patrimony,” Cardinal William J. Levada, the prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, said at a news conference here.

The Vatican is trying to capitalize on fear of teh gays and teh womens within the Anglican Church. There are plenty of Catholics struggling against patriarchy within their own faith community, but now the Vatican is basically saying they’re the church for Christians who only want supposedly straight cis men in positions of power. And they’re saying bigotry trumps almost everything that’s divided the two churches since the Reformation. It’s a pretty disgusting recruitment strategy.

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55 Comments

  1. Sloppy Sandwich
    Posted October 23, 2009 at 10:07 am | Permalink

    Jesus gave apostolic orders to his twelve apostles who were all men, but he didn’t say only men could receive apostolic succession. It is disingenuous for the catholic church to say “we can’t let women be priests because Jesus only passed it on to men.” Those same twelve men were Jews, by that logic only Jews could receive apostolic orders.

  2. Laura_M
    Posted October 23, 2009 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    The thing is, there’s already an alternative. Admittedly, the Anglican Communion Network isn’t as widespread as the Catholic Church, but it’s every bit as conservative.

  3. LalaReina
    Posted October 23, 2009 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

    It makes me shake my head, Fox gets lampooned (rightfully) for it’s bigotry all the time but this site is every bit as bigoted towards religion and especially Catholicism.

  4. mltmlt
    Posted October 24, 2009 at 5:19 pm | Permalink

    Another misconception. Catholics do not adopt a purely literal interpretation of the bible.
    Each book is written and interpreted biblically. It is believe by Catholics to be inspired by God, but written by humans and subject to (re)interpretation. Some books are allegorical and poetic like ‘Song of Solomon’, others are a more direct account like the Book of John.
    The Catholic Church does not regard women as inferior but complimentary and different (wait…I hear atheists snickering in the distance). We do not accept gender theory, but neither do we accept certain forms of essentialism which regard women as irrelevant in the public sphere.
    But you are right about relativism/selecting what you want of truth for your own convenience…it leads to trouble.

  5. mltmlt
    Posted October 24, 2009 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Re: Catholic Pagans. The essential story of Christ is that of complete self-sacrifice. Christ was God – and yet died on the cross – then was resurrected. He didn’t die again after that. This is totally contrary to Pagan spirituality which is cyclical, polytheistic, etc. Might want to read about Cardinal Francis Arinze, he is an African Pagan convert to Catholicism.
    The Vatican has money and power and must be stopped: This ‘sell the vatican’ nonsense is really over the top. No one is complaining about the consumer-driven (RED) campaign serving to satisfy our own greed culture or the fact that we spend enough money on cosmetics in one year to feed all of Africa. The Pope owns nothing. The Pope has never owned anything. Go to the Vatican and look at the Will of Each one. They have NOTHING to leave behind nothing because they own nothing. Now look at the will of past CEO’s of the United Way, Planned Parenthood, the ONE Campaign. The Pope has no personal time to himself, he has no children because he has adopted the world as his children and therefore does not have SEX with them (in a family which has it’s problems but does not abuse at the same rate as the general population)…his role is as father. He like many others have given up their lives to live with the poor in solidarity.
    Read Caritas in Veritate and you will understand the real ethic behind the world’s poverty and suffering…This Pope has such brilliant insight, and it’s a shame we have to spend more time wading through such ignorance to see it.
    ——-
    Snowpiece on human beings being equal: If you believe that another human being is less human than yourself, and then you act on that belief in a way that hurts said person… can we really say that the belief is not in any way related to that action?
    Snowpiece, are we talking gays or embryos?
    Catholic Church on the unborn: Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception
    Catholic Church on homosexuals: They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity.
    So…based on your actions…what are your beliefs?
    Snowpiece on hir impression of the Church’s teaching on condoms: I have worked with Catholic Students in Kenya and they practice ABC. That is the Catholic Campaign. Abstinence, Be Faithful or use Condoms.
    So there is a statement on whether we should be using condoms, and then there is the daily happenings of life. Catholic Church statements have philosophical roots. Consumeristic ethics are what drive the condom industry. I need to have more sex, more pleasure, less responsibility, less committment to family. This is totally contrary to the Catholic teaching on human dignity. People use condoms to protect their lives, but the objective should be to move beyond them to faithful, committed relationships.

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