Quick Hit: Send Jay Leno your gayest fuck you

Over at Shakesville they’re collecting photos flipping off Jay Leno for being, as usual, a sexist, homophobic ass. Actor Ryan Phillppe was on Leno’s show, and mentioned that his first acting job was playing a gay teenager on a soap opera. Leno kept bugging him to look into the camera and give his “gayest look.� Phillppe declined. But Shakesville readers are happy to share. Go check it out.
More at My Gayest Look for Leno.

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21 Comments

  1. Posted March 31, 2008 at 10:46 am | Permalink

    So to clarify, how is this a feminist issue?

  2. Genetic_Mishap
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    GLBT folks are under the thumb of patriarchy as well as straights. Therefore, feminist-relevent!

  3. Posted March 31, 2008 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    I haven’t seen many of Philippe’s movies, except for Cruel Intentions. He always seemed like an actor who got by just on his good looks rather than any actual talent. But as I’ve been reading interviews with him for his latest film (which I really hope is good) he seems like a really classy guy and I think I need to go find some of his other movies.
    And Spottie, this is a feminist issue for a couple of reasons. 1) There’s a lot of overlap between the fight for LGBT rights and the fight for women’s rights 2) Jay Leno isn’t just homophobic, but has a litany of other charming personality “quirks” that make him worthy of a fuck you from many communities.

  4. Vesuvia
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    How is this a feminist issue? Well, don’t you think the ways in which women are “expected” to behave and be womanly are intimately connected to the ways men are expected to behave and be manly? If your answer is yes, then jokes aimed at “teh gays” obviously feed right back in to that power structure that constructs certain gender regimes as the only “valid” ones.

  5. JohanBotemill
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    What a turd. His is an especially insidious form of homophobia. He has gay guests on and he is very cordial towards them. But so much of his humor rests upon the notion that homosexuality is comical. Why is it comical? Because it’s different, it seems strange to a lot of people. He’s putting forth the view that being gay is ridiculous. He wanted RP to play the clown, play the fool, play the gay.
    Fuck you Jay!

  6. Posted March 31, 2008 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Leno’s wife, Mavis, worked with Fem Maj years ago on their Afghanistan project (pre-911). When she had a chance to speak on his show about the issue of women suffering under Taliban rule, Leno instead chose to talk about the first time they had sex and his classic car collection. I haven’t watched the show since. It’s alright. Conan’s taking his place soon enough.

  7. manabanana
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    This is potentially a relevant post. Potentially. Certainly LGBT issues are feminist issues, as other commenters have pointed out; I don’t think anyone here would argue that lesbians, bisexual women, and transwomen aren’t women, or have no stake in feminism. However, there is a problem with this post’s execution, as well as with the execution of many similar posts on this site that is likely leading Spottieottiedopalicious to ask the question s/he has asked.
    This post isn’t presented as a feminist issue. There is no context, no meaningful commentary, analysis, or discussion to bridge the rhetorical gap between homophobic remarks against a gay man and feminist views and values. The theory exists, it’s just not applied. It rarely is on Feministing. There are (sometimes) posts on race, LGBT, fat acceptance, class, immigration, religious issues, but they are generally presented like this post is: as separate, parallel issues.
    Intersecionality doesn’t work this way. Some or all of these issues are implicit and imperative in virtually every posted story, but they are not treated as such. They are instead analyzed in specific posts like this, treated as somehow tangential from “central� feminist issues.
    Cursory acknowledgement is not sufficient. Acknowledgement in isolation is not constructive. This is a serious problem with the feminist discourse I’ve seen here and elsewhere. How is this a feminist issue? Well, if I were to use the contents of this post to divine an answer, it’s not.

  8. Swim72
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    I think that this is a relevant issue. Jay Leno is making fun of homosexual people. Telling Ryan to look into the camera and give a “gay” look, is insulting. I am glad that he did not follow through with these commands.
    Insulting homosexuals, particularly men, is a feminist issue because ultimately underneath it all they are making fun of women. These gay men are looked down upon because they are not “manly” they are feminine. Not to mention the slurs of words that are used against gay men, and straight men in some cases. “Pussy” “Bitch” “Cunt” it is startling that the worse thing you can call someone is a “woman.”

  9. SmallTownPsychosis
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

    This post isn’t presented as a feminist issue. There is no context, no meaningful commentary, analysis, or discussion to bridge the rhetorical gap between homophobic remarks against a gay man and feminist views and values.

    Hand wringing over how other people’s sites don’t measure up to your standards is useless.

  10. Mr. Sean
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 4:30 pm | Permalink

    “Hand wringing over how other people’s sites don’t measure up to your standards is useless.”
    I don’t think that ‘hand wringing’ is what is at issue. It’s a question of journalistic responsibility, and one that is only going to become more prescient as greater and greater attention is called to Feministing as its principle contributors appear more and more frequently in ‘mainstream’ media outlets like The Nation.
    I am a long-time reader who has recently chosen to de-lurk because I care about this site. The last thing that I would want to see is the growing attention being brought to bear on Feministing derailed on account of posts that fail to provide context or simply assume that all readers bring a set of predetermined assumptions.

  11. SmallTownPsychosis
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 4:45 pm | Permalink

    The last thing that I would want to see is the growing attention being brought to bear on Feministing derailed on account of posts that fail to provide context or simply assume that all readers bring a set of predetermined assumptions.

    I like this site because it doesn’t treat me like I’m brainless and need everything spoonfed. It allows that I’ve got autodidact skills and critical thinking skills all my very own.
    In other news, oh dear, the girls linked to naughty pictures of people flipping the bird without explaining their behavior. Whatever will we do?!

  12. Posted March 31, 2008 at 5:01 pm | Permalink

    It really isn’t that difficult to place things in context. I realize this isn’t necessarily feminism 101, but to a degree it is for some. Feministing does not pose itself as high level feminist interpretation and as a result will attract newbies who may not have the same frame of reference for these posts which make them easily understood to vets. Perhaps, that is why the first comment in this post is a question about its place in feminism. It doesn’t make any sense to shut out a portion of the audience if the point is to educate–otherwise they’re preaching to the choir as it were.
    I wonder where out of the thoughtfully written critique posted, one gathers that the problem is mean old people flashing the finger. This is what we call a straw man, as in “I will not attack the content of your post, but rather the point which I created from it.”

  13. SmallTownPsychosis
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

    The question was addressed in subsequent posts. Anyone can see that. The whiners still jumped in to cry about it, offering no rebuttal or further illumination, just complaining and run-of-the-mill concern trolling.
    This is what we call a straw man, as in “I will not attack the content of your post, but rather the point which I created from it.”
    Indeed.

  14. Mr. Sean
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

    “The whiners still jumped in to cry about it, offering no rebuttal or further illumination, just complaining and run-of-the-mill concern trolling.”
    For my part, I was neither whining nor do I consider myself a troll.
    I am a professor at a major university who admires this site, shares the convictions of many of its contributors and frequently steers students in its direction.
    I was simply expressing concern regarding the potential for media exposure to backfire and the need for diligence in material that is presented as journalism.

  15. SmallTownPsychosis
    Posted March 31, 2008 at 10:59 pm | Permalink

    I was simply expressing concern regarding the potential for media exposure to backfire and the need for diligence in material that is presented as journalism.

    I checked the link.
    “Over at Shakesville they’re collecting photos flipping off Jay Leno for being, as usual, a sexist, homophobic ass.”
    This appears to be an accurate summation. What is the issue?
    I am a researcher at a major university. I quite enjoyed looking through the photos and plan to return for updates. I see no cause for alarm.
    Manabanana’s complaining about lack of indepth analysis on a post prefaced “Quick Hit” was out of place. Jumping on that bandwagon was out of place.
    When I saw “Quick Hit” I didn’t become dejected because there was no formal analysis of the material. Something about “Quick Hit” translated in my brain as “not going to walk you through this one.”
    There are many posts here that go into detail, have further links to supporting material, and provide larger context. There are many links to the left that provide more reading material. Using this post to sound some alarm about journalistic standards and lack of analysis is unwarranted.
    Complaining about this post is like complaining about political cartoons not offering indepth analysis. Do people expect Comix Nation to come with a complete analysis of the underlying issues at hand? The March 3 issue next to me has one on Corporate Greed. It says something about Clorox giving a royalty to the Sierra Club and then the next panel suggests that money grows on trees. I think they should really be careful if they want to present themselves as having journalistic integrity. =/

  16. MLEmac
    Posted April 1, 2008 at 1:43 am | Permalink

    I have so much more respect for Ryan Philippe now. I can imagine how annoyed Leno was that his joke got ruined.

  17. puckalish
    Posted April 1, 2008 at 3:34 am | Permalink

    I want to echo Psychosis a bit, here… and add one more thing.
    In addition to it being a “Quick Hit,” indicative of not-too-in-depth analysis of a response to a late night talk show, one of the great things about the web is that there is the opportunity for follow up.
    Spottie asked a question and there have been many answers. Incredible. I’d say Jessica more than did her job – and the commenters took it from there.
    Further, I don’t think recognizing that LGBT issues intersect with feminism is really all that high level… and so I think the authors here can trust the readership to fill in the more basic gaps. It’d be nice if they could trust us to do so without denigrating them or one another, but maybe in the future.
    Finally, I don’t think that inviting a curious and uninformed audience to ask questions of one another is “shut[ting] out” anyone, but rather relying on the community to aid one another.
    Looking forward to when Feministing will have its community blogging joint up.
    peace and blessings

  18. ElleMariachi
    Posted April 1, 2008 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    Leno also comes across as a total perv–I don’t understand why he always somehow tries to steer the conversation towards something saucier/sexier every time an attractive young actress is on his show. I stopped watching him years ago and I can’t wait until he’s off the air.

  19. Mr. Sean
    Posted April 1, 2008 at 5:53 pm | Permalink

    “Complaining about this post is like complaining about political cartoons not offering indepth analysis.”
    I hadn’t thought about it that way – you’re probably right. Mea culpa.

  20. Posted April 2, 2008 at 12:21 am | Permalink

    Leno constantly makes fun of overweight people as well.
    My fattest face is remarkably similar to the gayest faces.
    Vive la Conan.

  21. Mr. Sean
    Posted April 2, 2008 at 10:59 am | Permalink

    Just saw that Leno has been forced to apologize for this.
    So good work.
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344858,00.html

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