Holy shit.

This is crazy:

“In a startling revelation, the former commander of Abu Ghraib prison testified that Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, former senior US military commander in Iraq, gave orders to cover up the cause of death for some female American soldiers serving in Iraq.
Last week, Col. Janis Karpinski told a panel of judges at the Commission of Inquiry for Crimes against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration in New York that several women had died of dehydration because they refused to drink liquids late in the day. They were afraid of being assaulted or even raped by male soldiers if they had to use the women’s latrine after dark.

Alternet gives us details. I’m honestly too appalled to comment.

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5 Comments

  1. Posted January 31, 2006 at 9:26 pm | Permalink

    I know! I read this article and wanted to post on it but didn’t have time. It made me so mad – not because I couldn’t believe that that stuff was happening in the millitary but b/c of General Sanchez’s remark that the women deserve it because the chose to be in the army!!!!!

  2. craichead
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 4:39 am | Permalink

    I don’t know, this story just seems implausible to me. Why would someone risk dehydration in a warzone when she could drink as needed and pee on the ground or in an empty bottle if she had to. Would they also not drink if they were under fire since they couldn’t go to the latrine then either?
    I’m not buying it.

  3. Zaij
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 7:45 am | Permalink

    What a crock of shit. The women couldve just filled water bottles during the day and drunk it at night. It’s amazing what you people will believe.

  4. noname
    Posted February 1, 2006 at 9:54 am | Permalink

    I can believe that conditions are bad in Iraq for women in the army. I can believe that their concerns are ignored by some superiors. The rest of the story, though, seems highly suspect.
    First consider the source: Karpinski has been punished for the Abu Ghraib mess, and thinks she was skape-goated. While she might be telling the truth, she might also be out for revenge.
    Second, consider the information itself (I did not read the transcript of her testimony, so I may be mistaken here): She gives only the vaguest information here. Rather than saying who these women were, when the incidents took place, and exactly what the circumstances were, she simply alleges that “several” women died of dehydration do to an unspecified “threat”.
    Third, consider the forum: Why did she come forward with this at the Commission of Inquiry for Crimes against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration? I was taking this somewhat seriously until I went to their website. This is a commission without authority. The first member listed is Harry Belefonte. The mission is to indict Bush of such “crimes against humanity” as “Attacks on Global Public Health and Reproductive Rights, with particular reference to the genocidal effects of forcing international agencies to promote “abstinence only” in the midst of a global AIDS epidemic.” While I am pro choice and think that Bush is an idiot, I have trouble respecting a group who
    1. Thinks it takes a serious inquiry to show that Bush is pro-life and pushes an abstinance only education agenda
    2. Considers these political stances to be a crime against humanity.
    Why would Karpinski make these allegations here as opposed to through a respected news forum? I can only assume it is because she preferred a group who desperately wants to believe her as opposed to a news organization that would feel the need to investigate her claims.
    Fourth, consider the described situation: We are supposed to believe that multiple highly trained (this would include desert survival training, i.e. “drink water”), armed female soldiers were so afraid to go to the bathroom at night that they risked death to avoid it? We are further supposed to believe that the concept of pissing in a bottle never occurred to them, or at least seemed like an inferior plan to death by dehydration?
    None of these concerns prove these allegations false, but they do cast a lot of doubt on the claims. After thinking on this quite a bit last night, I am left with two principle feelings. The first is utter amazement that many people are taking this story at face value with little or no skepticism. The second is the hope that this these allegations are false.

  5. Posted February 2, 2006 at 4:24 am | Permalink

    i believe a lot of stuff about our female soldiers getting raped, but this one is way out there. need more evidence…

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